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		<title>HOWTO: Get printer&#8217;s marks and correct bleed sizes in PDFs output from Illustrator CS3</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brent Miller</dc:creator>
		
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Sometimes stupid software bugs just burn my bu**.
For one of my clients, I designed a 8.5&#215;11&#8243; flyer that&#8217;s going to a real printer.  It&#8217;s a full-bleed piece, so the printer requested that I give them an eighth-inch bleed, with trim marks.  I thought, &#8220;Oh.  No worries.  I&#8217;m using my brand-spanking-new-hot-off-the-presses copy [...]]]></description>
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<p>Sometimes stupid software bugs just burn my bu**.</p>
<p>For one of my clients, I designed a 8.5&#215;11&#8243; flyer that&#8217;s going to a real printer.  It&#8217;s a full-bleed piece, so the printer requested that I give them an eighth-inch bleed, with trim marks.  I thought, &#8220;Oh.  No worries.  I&#8217;m using my brand-spanking-new-hot-off-the-presses copy of CS3, which will surely be able to handle this sort of thing.  Well, you can see where this is going — it doesn&#8217;t.  If you make an 8.5&#215;11&#8243; documentin Illustrator CS3, and then save it as a PDF with the appropriate bleed size and trim marks, you don&#8217;t get what you wanted.  Illustrator crops the document at the artboard limits, which are 8.5&#215;11&#8243;.</p>
<p>Some quick googling turned up <a href="http://rwillustrator.blogspot.com/2007/11/ask-mordy-document-size-and-bleed.html" title="Aha!">a discussion of the problem</a>, but not the solution I wanted.</p>
<p>But there is a work-around.  I&#8217;ll give you a hint: it <em>doesn&#8217;t</em> involve CS3&#8217;s new crop area tool.<span id="more-86"></span></p>
<p>If you use the crop area tool, you get the same bug, so it&#8217;s no help.</p>
<p>The solution:</p>
<ol>
<li>Add ¼&#8221; of width all the way around the artboard, making your document 9&#215;11.5&#8243;</li>
<li>Save the document as a PDF</li>
<li>Open the new PDF in Acrobat 8</li>
<li>Go to Document > Crop Pages&#8230;</li>
<li>Set the TrimBox (shown below) to ¼&#8221; all the way around — to compensate for the ¼&#8221; we added before.  You&#8217;ll see the bright green line in the preview window that now delineates the original 8.5&#215;11&#8243; document size.
<p><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/cs3_trim_box.jpg" alt="CS3 TrimBox crop dialog" /></li>
<li>Go to Advanced > Print Production > Add Printers Marks</li>
<li>Check &#8220;Trim Marks&#8221;</li>
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<p>You should now see the trim marks! Don&#8217;t forget to save…</p>
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